Sunday, November 28, 2010

sign mismatch problem while redemption!

Sign mismatch problem while redemption!


Message By venkatesh dharmalingam

Dear Friends,
Most of my clients face a unique and peculiar problem of signature mismatch particularly while giving redemptions
Clients put forth the following points against AMC;
1.Client confirms that his/her sign has not changed, their sign is accepted elsewhere, infact AMC’s never say signature mismatch while accepting additional purchase
2.Client has not changed his/her bank details/address while doing redemption
3.Client gives redemption for emergency expecting money in T+3 days but AMC’s don’t communicate the signature mismatch problem to client immediately
4.Client gives redemption when market is high but looses the opportunity if redemption is failed
5.No proof is given by AMC to client to justify signature mismatch problem
6.AMC’s want bank manger name,employee code,sign & seal to revalidate redemption request but banks refuse to do all these
7.Every client can’t register online transaction with every AMC to avoid signature mismatch problem
8.If the client is a senior citizen or becomes sick or disabled then it is very difficult for those clients to redeem their money 
Because of this problem most of the clients either stop their investment interim in mutual fund or take out their entire money from mutual fund
AMC’s have to come out with acceptable & practical solution for this problem, otherwise existing clients will also go away from mutual fund investment leave alone new clients
I request every one of us to take up this genuine complaint to AMC’s
I also request our friends view on this issue
Thanks & Regards
D.M.Venkateswaran
ARN.46687
Mobile:9841014457

45 comments:

  1. Kalyanaraman

    I have experienced this a few times and after great persuation managed to get a look at application signature and redemption or major alteration request signature and found that in all these cases there was a mismatch which even the investor acknowledged.

    Anyway such instances were very few and did not happen with any one particular AMC.
    Therefore i feel there is no malacious intent - in fact they are cautious which is more welcome.

    If we want to be proactive then get every redemption request authenticated by Bank or Lawyer - or atleast in cases where we feel thet there may be a problem like some one becoming old.

    People invest in MF for higher returns and am sure will walk the extra mile to comply with the request to get this gain.

    Kalyanaraman ARN-12881

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  2. Reply from
    shankaranarayana dabbe,
    drs_narayana@yahoo.com

    yes the the signature mismatch many a times makes very uncomfertable
    -it is only a human eye judgement
    -request presented again with the same personsignature is accepected as it might
    judged by another human eye
    -signatures tend to vary in most cases by 20-30%
    -banks accepets up to 40% variation
    -if banks insists like mfs lakhs of cheques dishouner

    As IFA is made coumplesary to obtain kyd and his details are available
    with amc & he can be eaisly traced much faster than a criminal hence
    signature attestation authority to be givan to IFAs he can be made
    responsible for any illegal transation, obtaining bank executive attestation
    can any body make the executive responsible? banks are not providing this
    service free for their valued customers they are charging Rs 50- 150 that
    too after some harrasement & making some nasty comments like are we sitting
    here to attestation we have our own work etc

    A solution cn be thought off

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  3. Comment from
    SRINIVASAN VEERARAGHAVAN
    ravipadsri@gmail.com

    Respected venkateswaran,



    I too agree with your various points raised by you.


    Infact i am the first man to highlight this type of similar problem faced by me. to lot of my clients Poor investor got the redemptio money only after 2 months.


    I think and Reliace Mutual fund and Hsbc mutual fund has started this type of mismatch problem.


    I though this problem has solved, Still it is continuing means it is shocking.


    Anyway IFA Galaxy will take action.


    With best wishes,
    Srinivasan .V
    "Sarathy Nilayam"
    OldNo:15 NewNo:8
    Lakshminarashiman Street,
    T.Nagar, Chennai- 600017
    Cell: 91-9500034856
    ResPh:91-44-28141980,

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  4. Comment from
    P VENKATESAN
    venkat.profit@gmail.com

    Sir,
    I am also facing same problem.

    Regards,
    Venkat
    ARN 32634

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  5. Comment from
    coimbatore annadurai natarajan cna_1955@yahoo.co.in


    DEAR MR D M VENKATESWARAN,

    GREETINGS.

    NOTED THE CONTENTS OF YOUR MAIL.

    THOSE ARE THE USUAL QUESTIONAIRE AS WELL AS QUERIES THROWN ON THE DISTRIBUTORS WHENEVER REDEMPTIONS ARE APPLIED FOR. VERY PARTICULARY FROM THE KARVY SIDE.

    THIS IS SO ABNOXIOUS AND ABNORMAL WHICH WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING. OTHERWISE, HARD AND HEAVY BLAMES OF DEVIATIONS WILL BE POURED ON OUR HEADS.

    WHAT TO DO BUT THERE IS NO OTHER GO IN WHICH WE HAVE TO LIVE IN.

    THANKS

    C N ANNADURAI

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  6. Comment from
    electricmuthu
    electricmuthu@sify.com

    Dear Venkateswaran,

    you have wonderfully presented the very important problem of MF Investors at the right time. I totally agree with your views, which are presented very nicely. I will write to AMC similar letter to find a solution for this kind of problem.

    Thank You,
    S.Muthusankar.

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  7. Comment from
    Ganesan
    itplaner@gmail.com

    U r absolutely right. I hv also faced similar problems various times.

    In fact, even after giving change of address, redemption cheques go to the old address.

    Rgds
    Ganesan
    98400 28823 / 98841 60427.

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  8. Comment from
    Joy Koruthu
    joy.koruthu@gmail.com

    I too agree with what IFA Shankanarayana has suggested.The IFA should be made an attesting authority as he is within the reach of the system.

    Mischief if intended can be done at any level with even the greatest responsibility / accountability as can be seen in the news everyday.

    May be one day the IFA will be given the rightful place he/she deserves,,i,e, a valuable and trusted member of the Financial Community.

    Best regards,
    Joy Koruthu
    ARN 12252
    at Chennai +91-9840183247

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  9. Comment from
    Rajagopal S.
    centaur_sr@yahoo.com

    Dear Sir

    I agree. AMC are ery fastidiuos when it comes to redemption. They dont exercise similar caution when accepting investments. They act like Post Offices. They should also reform and evolve a practicable solution rather than harassing investors only at the time of redemption.

    Some AMCs accept investmens by GPA but later claim the GPA is not updated and refuse redemption. Some of them also forcibly convert brokers procurement into direct.

    Regards
    S. Rajagopal
    ARN 1781

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  10. Comment from
    vijaya gsm
    vijaya_gsm@rediffmail.com

    Dear Mr. Venkateswaran,

    As you have mentioned wrightly viewis on mismatching of signature. It is genuine reason, i faced number of times the same problem with various AMCs. Simply, they reject redemptions, at the time of badly need of money by investors.. In some occassions they don't borther to inform immediately to the clints over phone, written nor to their agents. When bnk particulars mentioned, and redemption request are crediting through the cheques in the name of investors/directly their account, what is the necessaity of minure change in signature.(of course if totally changes mis match, there is a reason to reject). We do not know on what basis they are saying signature mismatching, The should clearify to come out or to what to do in such cases within short span of time).

    Sathyam G

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  11. Comments from
    DUBAL VIMAL V.
    dubalvimal@gmail.com

    Dear Friends,

    It is very true said by our frnd Mr. Venkatesh and I agree with him. I have faced this type of problems in my own investments too, When I been rude with them for communicating very late and demanded for late payment interest they became very soft with me and requested me to leave the issue as it will be a problem for AMC's employee.

    We all have to do one thing only reduce the business with them and finally stop business with them, but we people can't do that we all are money hungry people against it we put our self respect and proud aside. I have started to do this, only non cooperation is the way for teaching the lesson to the AMCs.

    Vimal Dubal

    ARN: 56831

    Cell No. 9510141481.

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  12. Comments from
    venkat m
    venkatpisces@gmail.com

    now this is bound to go up since net redemptions are higher than net inflows. AMCs have to face this since they kept quiet when SEBI came out with all the so called investor friendly policies which was essentially back door entry for stock brokers. atleast if they speak up in unison with IFAs and distribution community we may be able to revive the patient from coma.

    Best Regards
    Venkateswaran M
    Pisces Investment Solutions,
    2 B, Kenton Towers,
    Above HDFC Bank Branch,
    Vazhuthcaud ,
    Trivandrum -695014
    ph-91 471 2336536
    mobile-91 9847060869
    mobile -91 9895991602

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  13. Comment from
    Eajaz hussain
    eajaz.h@gmail.com

    Very happy that Venkat had taken this issue of signature mismatch,many a times we had faced this problem.

    Hope IFA Galaxy takes this issue unitedly..

    Hussain

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  14. Comment from
    balasubramanian n.s
    nsbalu@hotmail.com

    DEAR SIR,


    WE FORWARD THE MIS MATCH PROBLEMS...............SINCE I HAD WORKED IN THE BANK I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST FEW POINTS

    1. CAMS / KARVY MUST POST SOME SPECMEN SIGN CHEKING OFFI CER AT COUNTERS , THEY CAN CHK ON THE SAME DAY
    AND IMMEDIATLY INFORM ON THE SAME DAY ITSELF TO THE INVESTOR.....................

    2. SINCE T + 3 DAYS AVAILABLE, EVEN IF SIGN DIFFERS THEY DO THE REDEMPTION AND HOLD THE FUNDS INORDER TO AVOID MARKET LOSSES AND AFTER DISCUSS WITH THE INVESTOR OVER PHONE .


    3. THEY MAY RELEASE THE FUNDS AFTER GETTING LATEST SIGN ATTESTATION.

    4. MIS MATCH IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR ADVISORS AND INVESTORS................WE MUST FIND SOME SOLULTIONS.

    WITH KIND REGARDS


    OK BYE


    ERODE - NSB MUTUAL FUNDS AGENCY.

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  15. Comments from
    Krishnappa Lokesh
    lokeshfinancials@gmail.com


    Signature mis match is the routine excuse clients
    facing these days...
    Its just a stupid excuse it seems, as redemption warrant
    or a/c. transfer both will happen according to
    his/her declaration only
    or to the perticular applicant redemption proceeds will goes to.
    it makes lot of inconvenience,
    When it matters to take a call after sign missmatch is
    miserable.


    Lokesh.
    ________________
    Happy Investing.
    Lokesh.
    +919980921133.

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  16. Comment from
    Rajince Raman
    raman_tata@yahoo.co.in

    It is very normal if in certain cases there are signature mismatches.One practical solution is to take a signature on redemption form also when you take the investment from the client. Present the same redemption slip when client takes out their money.

    Regards,
    R.Raman.,
    Mobile: 98414 59061.
    ARN-37581.

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  17. Comments from
    nagaraj.b .
    nagaraj.b@sify.com

    Two signatures by the same hand also never match. It is not the dots or dashes we have to see. We have to verify the flow is from the owner of the signature. Even if some variation is there, what is the risk to AMC or it,s Registrars, since the redemption proceeds are being credited to the Investor's Bank a/c or payment sent by A/c payee crossed cheque. If you want to suspect, you can suspect everything. The Registrars are recruiting raw people who do not have practical knowledge or exposure, because of which investors are being harassed ! They have a tendency to look everything suspiciously and treat all investors are cheaters. One of my client who is the head of a Department in a major hospital was compelled to go to bank, applying a days leave, and wait in a Bank for long time and get signature attested by the Bank MANAGER, paid prescribed fees for the service. Later when I approached for further business, he said " hell with your Mutual Funds - Not only I am getting less than what I invested (after 3 yrs), to give my money back you have harassed me !. There is absolutely no risk to AMC/Registrar in crediting to the Investors Bank a/c or by paying by A/C payee crossed cheque ! It is ignorance on the part of staff who are processing. In some cases they are asking for the original Cancelled cheque leaf for changing the Bank A/c.. Some staff wanted investor's signature also on the cancelled cheque ! These ignorant staff do not know what they are asking.! I asked them to give an indemnity to the investor stating that if that cheque is misused by any of their insiders, then the AMC / Registrars will make good of the loss suffered by the Investor ! What is the guarantee that there is no criminal among the staff appointed by the AMC / Registrars, who have easy access to the Original Blank cheque lying in an idle file with them ? Instead of simplifying the rules for Investors benefit, they are making it more and more stringent, as if the AMC is obliging the Investors by accepting their Investment !! This matter should be taken up by the IFA association.

    - B. Nagaraj ARN 5746

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  18. Comments from
    Ezhil Premendran
    ezhil_p@hotmail.com

    I had also faced these problems and the AMC doesn't give proper answer . I feel the AMC shd stop looking at signaturte mismatch .

    Regards
    P.Ezhil
    ARN 71663

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  19. Comments from
    mohan subramaniam
    mohaun@gmail.com

    Dear Mr.Venkatesh,

    I absolutely agree with you on the points as this is also true in my client's case ( My Father )...

    The only solution possible in my case with regard to my father is I may take an P.O.A as this eliminates the problem of transactions...
    But not with others and it persists..Unless AMFI comes out with a plausible answer which of course they won't as they are not interested in small time I.F.A's....

    Regards,
    Mohan. ARN- 30416.

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  20. Comments from
    Cijo K Paul
    cijo_kp@yahoo.com

    All,

    I too faced this issue multiple times.. Atleast the issue of Signature mismatch being raised by AMCs should be avoided in cases, where there is a direct credit to the customers bank account. Even in such cases, AMC have rejected the redumption requests on the ground on Signature mismatch., which is not at all fair. The customers as well as we advisors, are losing time & money to get the papers ready.

    Team,

    Is it possible to take this up with the AMCs or regulators and get a solution for this?.

    Thanks & Regards,
    Cijo K Paul (ARN-9793)

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  21. Comments from
    seetharaman kuppuswamy
    seetharaman1947@yahoo.com

    only sebi which touts that it protects the investor by doing away with entry load should address this problem particularly mr bhave should solve this problem

    plant & grow trees &let us handover a better world to our future genarations

    seetharaman.k
    arn 49538

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  22. Comments from
    santosh kumar
    santosh.v9090@gmail.com

    Very Good Question.

    AMC's are rejecting application even for Additional Purchases in case of mismatch in signature. Investors are not submitting applications directly to AMC's, most of them routing it through Distributors & few of them are submitting at CAMS or Karvy.

    Investor signature is only one unique identification for AMC to process the application. If the sign not matched in what way the transaction will be executed?

    I am not supporting any AMC, there is a solution for everything.

    Investor can submit redemption along with Banker attestation if hefeels that his sign is not matching.& i recommend every investor to
    obtain online User id &Pwd to avoid these kind of problems & rejections.

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  23. Comments from
    Atul Shah
    atulkalpanashah@yahoo.com

    Dear friend,
    I fully agree with your sited problem of sign mismatch...
    My experience with reliance mf--;;;---First time redemption was rejected on sign mismatch ground...
    I sent zerox copy of application form with rejected redemption slip to AMC through my RELATIONSHIP MANAGER..
    I CONVEYED THE ORAL MESSAGE THAT AMC SHALL HAVE TO ESTABLISH VALIDITY OF ITS REJECTION...AS
    THERE WAS NO MISMATCH....OTHERWISE CUSTOMER SHALL CLAIM DAMAGES FOR WRONG MISMATCH DECISION... Surprisingly, redemption cheque was despatched after a week WITH old redemption date NAV...

    Can it be called adjustments? If yes, AMC must be doing many such adjustments --May be, to favour some...

    Can reliance amc be trusted blindly?

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  24. Comments from
    VINAY SHAHAGADKAR
    sk_investmentz@rediffmail.com

    Dear freind,

    I also face this problem.






    Thanks & Regards

    VINAY SHAHAGADKAR

    ARN--48286

    M.No.9422502896

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  25. Comment from
    Padmanabhan Venkatraman
    rag5157@gmail.com

    Yes. This is a definite possibbility to every client.atleast amcs can think of accepting such requests if attested by the IFAS.MATTER WORTH PONDERING.

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  26. Mostly the rejections are coming from Reliance amc. Their staff has been trained in such a way to reject the redemption while the market is on correction.

    No possibility to book this corrupt fellows into legal way. Hence in stock market their stocks are punished due to very very poor corporate governance.

    AUM game is going on where the investor is the losing side always.

    Here IFA's are useful only to collect the business, for them and they will do whatever they feel fit for the rest. No responsibility can be fixed on IFAs, because IFAs can question the AMC procedures for rejection.

    Amc with principle ...only to cheat the Investors.

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  27. Signature mismatch is not unique to MF industry alone. I have come across such instances with Life Insurance Companies also, even for simple things like change of address, telephone no. etc. To look for ulterior motives in citing signature mismatch is like looking for devils where there are none.

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  28. YES, THIS IS VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. AMCS MAY ACCEPT THE REDAMPTION WITH SIGN ATTESTED BY THE ARN. THE CASH GOES ONLY TO THE INVESTORS BANK A/C.
    THANKS
    ARN-52573
    N.SEENUVAASAN
    TIRUVANNAMALAI

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  29. YES. THIS IS ONLY WITH SOME AMCs LIKE UTI, RELIANCE, HDFC, RELIANCE. DUE TO THEIR ACT, SMALL INVESTORS DID NOT GET THE SUM IN TIME AND GET FRUSTRATED AND THEY DECIDE TO PUT THEIR HARD MONEY IN BANKS. THIS POSITION IS VERY DISTURBING FOR IFAS. TO EREDICATE THIS PROBLEM- I ADVISE AS UNDER.(1)IFAS NEED NOT TO VERIFY ANY SIGN. (2)AMC SHOULD CONTACT ON PHONE/MOBILE FOR CONFIRMATION OF RFEDEMPTION ALONGWITH ADDRESS AND BANK DETAILS. RAMESH DONGRIAH-BANGALORE ARN 44454

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  30. Dear IFAs,
    I think there is one solution for this problem.
    Before submitting the fresh application to CAMS/KARVY please take the photocopies of application form, SIP form and cheque. Addition tho this Get the signature from the Investor in the redemption form and get signature verification from the Point of presence while submitting the application.

    When the Investor wants to redeem submit with this signature verified redemption request. There will not be any problem with the AMCs.

    Regards
    Sunil

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  31. Durai.Sivasamy/ARN 64149/ duraisivasamy@yahoo.co.in
    I feel very happy that mr.Venkateswaran have taken this signature mismatching issue.If a redemption rejected by this reason or takes a longer time then what is the use when the investor in timely needs of fund.
    1.We maintain a model sheet with signatures and also with full particulars of investors (I follow this method)or we should take xerox copy of application form at the time of investing.
    2.AMCs make a provision in redemption forms- to get attestation by the bank manager of investor.
    3.As Mr.Rajince Raman's sugession, we get a signature in redemption form at investing.
    Thank you.

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  32. e balakrishnan arn-4907 chennaiNovember 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM

    I also have faced such problems.
    I manage it this way.
    I suggest my clients to keep a record of their signatures when they invest.They are supposed to sign as per that record when they redeem.
    Secondly,for aged clients,i always suggest to get their specimen signatures changed in MF records as and when required to avoid problems during redemption.It is a tough and boring job but worth doing it.

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  33. Yes. This is a serious issue. We are not getting any mail or communication from AMC or CAMS.

    Another info : For corporate agents, they are getting Rs. 150 to Rs 200 per application incentive for one year SIP. But we have to give min 2 years term for the above incentive slab. If you give one year SIP you do not get anything. Why ?

    Radhakrishnan.K.K. Salem

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  34. Amit Kishore Chirimar CFPNovember 28, 2010 at 4:14 PM

    Yes this is definitely a serious and critical issue to be addressed. The sad part in the rejection process for redemption is that no one calls or communicate from AMC's the very next day of the transaction, but they are extra careful in case of the purchase transaction. Further, in case of signature mismatch or any other discrepancy, why distributor's / IFA's are ignored as if AMC's are surviving and will survive without us. The point i am try to drive is, when we are given so much importance for promoting and getting business for an AMC, then why the same importance is not given to us when we have any issue to resolve for our client's.

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  35. DEAR SIR,

    I TOO COME ACROOS SUCH PROBLEMS REG. SIGNATURE MISMATCH.
    AS TOLD BY OUR FRIENDS, AT THE TIME OF ADDITIONAL PURCHASE AMC DOESN'T OPEN THEIR MOUTH REG. SPECIMEN SIGNATURE. BUT WHEN REDEMPTION IS GIVEN THEY SHOW THEIR REAL FACE AND BOTH INVESTOR AND ADVISOR ARE LANDED IN PROBLEM.
    WE MUST REPRESENT THE AMC'S TO EMPOWER IFA's TO ATTEST THE SPECIMEN SIGNATURE OF INVESTOR'S.
    IN LIC, CLUB MEMBER AGENT'S ARE AUTHORISED TO ATTEST SPECIMEN SIGNATURE OF POLICY HOLDER'S. WHILE INVESTING, XEROX COPY OF PAN CARD IS BEING ATTESTED BY ARN HOLDER'S. WHY CAN'T THEY BE GIVEN THE SAME AUTHORISATION DURING REDEMPTION.
    PLEASE TAKE INITIATIVE ON THIS POINT.
    N.VISWANATHAN,FChFP,
    ARN 17941- ERODE

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  36. Sir,
    Signature Mismatch is a common one and the AMC have to look into its degree of variation. If they feel there is a gross difference, its better to call the customer immediately and inform them. Since customer come for redemption with some purpose, it will be useful only when they get back money in the need of hour. Now a days most of banks sends sms or email alert to customers wherein Rs.5000 or more value transactions taking place in their accounts. AMC's can also follow the practice of intimating the customers whenever redemptions takes place (atleast). Its not possible for all the customers to have digital signature which is not feasible as well not economical. Hence redemptions should not be stopped just because of mismatch, it has to be effected on the same day since proceeds depends on that day NAV. AMC's have to remember that CUSTOMER is the ultimate for them only we (IFA'S, AMC'S) are in this Busines.
    R.Ramesh
    ARN34777

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  37. In the interest of the Investor and to build Investor Confidence in MF Industry, they should never reject the redemption request on the grounds of signature mismatch. The concerned IFA can attest the redemption request with his ARN number and such requests need to be honoured. In any case the redemption proceeds are going only to the Bank Account of the Investor, which is on record. So the AMC need not worry about the proper disposal. This matter needs to be taken with the AMCs.
    M.R.U.P.Reddy (ARN 60834)

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  38. Dear Sir,
    Signature mismatch is the most worst problem while redemptions. Only lucky investors get away, while others trapped. Something must be done in this regard.
    J. IRSHAD AHMED
    ARN -8670

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  39. Yes.Its happening mostly in Rel.MF.
    Whereas the redemption amount is to be credited to the already registered Bank/Branch/Account only,
    it is not known why very minor strokes in signatures are garped on.It is humanly NOT possible for any one to sign twice without any dissimilarity.

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  40. this is a genuine issue , but it seems that with some fund houses they do not take enough responsibility to even verify the signatures at the 1st instance and immediately push them to signature verification from the banker.This is highly insensitive as they do not want to understand the sufferings it can cause to people who need the monies urgently.Also in case of older people, as the hand shakes, the signatures may vary.In genuine cases counterchecks like contacting over phone,communications to the investors addresses may be made.It may be a decent idea to empower IFAs(on the basis of seniority in business) to attest the signatures where there is a doubt.

    Sunil s Bhagat (ARN-9646)

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  41. This issue of signature mismatch is specific to only one or two AMC. IFAs should be empowered to counter sign. This will surely help both the AMC as well the IFA, especially in tough times like this.

    S.Dharmendra ARN 6258

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  42. YES THE MOST TAXING TASK THAT WE FACE WITH AMCS IS THE SIGNATURE MISMATCH.ESPECIALLY, RELINCE.
    NEXT IS KOTAK. WHEN WE REDEEM 2 SCHEMES UNDER ONE FOLIO, THEY REDEEM ONLY ONE SCHEME. FOR THE OTHER WE HAVE TO RUN TO PARTY FOR ANOTHER SIGNATURE .THEN WHY DO AMCS CONSOLIDATE THE SCHEMES IN ONE FOLIO? LITRELLY WE ARE KICKED LIKE BALLS BY AMCS. DO THE INVESTORS GET SUCH A PERSONALISED SERVICE FROM CORPORATES OTHER THAN IFAS?

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  43. Yes, this is a commen problem, & mostly with Reliance in my experiance. I also took the copies of the forms logged in, etc, but syill they declained.

    In one another incident, while redeeming my own investment, in front of they rejected it. I did sign again in front of their RM, advised them to show the scaned image, there was no fault at all !! Immediatly they accepted.

    Suggestion here is, after all the IFA'S can countersign, And they are going to send the payment by RTGS only. there's no way it cannot go to somebody.
    Let us think of this.
    :D !!
    Tx
    Arvind V Mani ( ARN 62515)

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  44. The frustration comes, when one is redeeming the amount, when it is required the most, by the investor for some situation which is important and critical at that point of time.
    If for whatever reason there is a rejection then, there is a tendency to blame everyone in the system. Looking at it objectively we should not the jump the gun and blame the AMC`s( I am not taking sides of anyone) but if it is an occasional case of rejection take it in the stride but if there is a consistency in terms of rejections, then we need to actually probe the system and then maybe come to some conclusion. But if the investor is going direct( with an ID/PAN Proof on him) for redemption at the AMC office he can question and ask to see the scanned COPY of the application form and see the variance and resubmit then & there! That could be a workable solution!

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  45. Nagaraj Boodugere - ARN 5746December 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM

    sir/madam,
    I do not understand why such a big fuss is being made about the signature mismatch. Even when it matches, is there any option to issue cheque in other name OR pay in cash? Signature is to be verified only when payments are made in cash, as there is every possibility of misuse/going to wrong hands. In case of Bonds/Debenture redemptions, RBI has ruled that there is no need to surrender/seek discharge by the holder. They only ascertain, whether there is any change in their postal address or Bank account. If no change is there, the proceeds are directly credited to holder's Bank a/c. OR an account payee cheque is issued incorporating the Bank a/c details of the holder. It is convenient for every one and no risk is involved. There should not be different rules for different redemptions and the same procedure can be adopted for mutual fund redemption also. Signature mismatch need not be a serious issue when all other factors match.

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